Wednesday, May 25, 2011
About Reformers Unanimous
Previously on my blog I have written about A.A. and gave other links to support groups for all types of things so it is only appropriate that I would share this one as well! A lot of churches have started this ministry, (including the one that Brandon's family goes to in Streetsboro, OH!), as an outreach program and I know more and more people who have benefited from it and have found the strength and help to turn their lives around. There are other great programs and support groups out there but the difference with RU is that it is a FAITH based program.
According to their website, "Reformers Unanimous is a revolutionary addiction recovery program developed from over a decade of experience working with hundreds of thousands of addicts through local churches. Renowned addiction experts Steve Curington, and Dr. Paul Kingsbury have produced a program that uses a unique spiritual approach to develop lifelong sobriety. If you have tried everything else, and are looking for something that "just works" then this program is for you."
It is so encouraging that such a great program has grown so much and helped so many, "What had started as a humble, Friday night Bible study with 4 regular attendees quickly exploded into meetings with more than 300 people from throughout the community. As word spread, other churches began to inquire about this ministry at North Love Baptist Church. The National Ministry of RU was quickly launched, and shortly after that, the International Ministry was born. Today, there are more than 680 chapters throughout the nation and 12 foreign countries. In these chapters, the curriculum developed by Steve Curington and the Reformers Unanimous Staff is used to great effect. Reformers Unanimous boasts an 82% success rate among the graduates of its discipleship course. The program has proven to be so effective for one very important reason—it takes people from lives of addiction and places them into God’s intended support group, the local church. Here the addict becomes firmly fixed in the ways of a healthy and godly lifestyle and forsakes his former ways for the abundant Christian life that proves to be so much more rewarding. This method is as close to infallible as possible because it is 100% Bible-based. It follows the doctrine that Jesus Christ is the only 'Way, Truth, and Life.' "
I have included the link below! I really want to get the word out on this program since I know it has helped so many. Whatever addiction has a hold of your life RU may be able to help you through it! Another great thing about RU is that the family members are welcome at all the meetings.
Also from the RU site, here are a some signs of addiction:
"The addict will, as already mentioned, often make your life miserable. They are self-centered and extremely manipulative. They lie without even thinking about it. They even, at times, believe the lies they are telling you. Addicts can often be suspicious and paranoid. They can, on occasion, hallucinate and believe that their hallucinations are reality. They accuse people of conspiring against them. They accuse their spouse of unfaithfulness. This is all done in an attempt to deflect attention from them and their issue. They deny the obvious. They do not show up for work, and then they get angry and blame the boss when they are fired. They steal from their family, and when they are confronted about the issue they get offended. They say one thing and do another. They contradict themselves in word and action. When the truth comes out, and they are confronted with it, they become angry and blame others for what transpired. While they are actively on the drug they feel that they are invincible and that they will never get caught. If they have children, they inevitably end up neglecting them or even abusing them. You see, the addict is caught up in his own little world, and he becomes incapable of caring about anything but his drug."
http://www.reformu.com/
Wednesday, May 18, 2011
Thomas Jefferson
"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe."
Thomas Jefferson
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."
Thomas Jefferson
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
Thomas Jefferson
"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
Thomas Jefferson
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
Thomas Jefferson
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Thomas Jefferson
"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
I think that John F. Kennedy said it best during a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time.
He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."
Thomas Jefferson
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."
Thomas Jefferson
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
Thomas Jefferson
"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
Thomas Jefferson
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
Thomas Jefferson
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Thomas Jefferson
"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
I think that John F. Kennedy said it best during a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time.
He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."
Sunday, May 08, 2011
Internet Scam - Warning
When I first heard about this I could not believe how many people were affected. I am writing this because of that fact. As I started researching this, I was shocked that in this day and age, (when people hear about these types of scams all the time), that so many would still be cheated.
In this time of economic hardship more and more people are searching out short term loans and payday loans to help them get by or build up their credit. These days everything is online and unfortunately you don't always know what you're getting into. RESEARCH everything. The focus of my post is, "Sigma Solutions LLC" - they are one of the worst companies to have your information.This is how they work.
You decide to look for a loan online. You find multiple companies ready and willing to take your info. You finally find one that is one you either recognize or feel comfortable with. This initial company that you give your information to is legitimate. (usually) This initial company however is not a bank. They are not a loan service. They are a go-between. And I would go so far as to say, they are the sheep's clothing covering the wolf. The next thing you know you are approved. They found someone who is willing to give you a loan. Who would that be? Sigma Solutions LLC, of course. If you decided to do your research half way thru the loan process and have stumbled upon this blog post at that time - stop. Do not go further because the next step is getting you to sign away your rights.
If you are past that point, keep reading. The next step begins with a contract. This is something you would expect from a legitimate company. It tells you how much you've been approved for and what the interest you will have to pay back will be. It's a little high but you expect that since, after all, it's being deposited that day... The bad thing about these companies is that they make you feel like it's completely honest and helpful - their agreements are somewhere in that 5 page range and most people just skim them. The things you are skimming over would be:
1.) Saying that you "agree that you will not bring, join, or participate in any class action as to any claim, dispute, or controversy you may have against us or our agents, services, directors, officers, and employees. You agree to the entry of injunctive relief to stop such a lawsuit or remove you as a participant in the suit. You agree to pay the costs we incur, including our court costs and attorneys fees, in seeking such relief." What you can do is arbitration which is a legal technique for the resolution of disputes outside the courts, where the parties to a dispute refer it to one or more persons and by their decision they agree to be bound. It's a settlement in which a third party reviews the case and imposes a decision that is legally binding for both sides - it's a form of alternative dispute resolution...Good luck with that.
2.) You authorize them to contact you regarding your "loan" at your place of employment residence at any time up to 9:00 p.m
Other parts include that they can give your info to their "affiliates" and that you are VERIFYING ALL YOUR INFORMATION and authorizing them access to your bank account. A legitimate company would want to talk to you to have you verify it all, they do not need to since you have just verified it all electronically along w/your electronic signature and have given them permission to do as they wish all based on the false premise that they will be depositing money into your account in one business day.
After you sign this, they will take you to a new page that states they will be calling you to verify your information. This is again to make you think they are legit.
I can tell you with certainty that no money will ever be placed into your account.
I think the reason they are able to continue this scam is because so many people are too embarrassed to say anything or they feel like there is nothing they can do. There are several forums and help discussions available for these types of scams - including city support forums and warnings to report them to the FCC - whether anything comes of that I am not sure but let me tell you a few of the things I came across while trying to track down this particular "company", Sigma Solutions LLC.
1.) Their address of:
2150 South 1300 East, suite 50
Salt Lake City, UT 84106
is a CONFERENCE CENTER from which you can rent conference and meeting rooms.http://www.cloudvirtualoffice.com/locations/DetailPage.php?center_id=2146
The important thing to know here is that you can rent this space for a "virtual meeting" - no one has to physically be there. I find this odd. Also this particular address can be rented as an "office-for-a-day" at any point in time.
You know how you always hear that anything can be found online? Well, it's pretty much true. Below is the link to the agreement FROM Davinci Meetings and Conference Rooms regarding THIS ADDRESS, it is TO anyone RENTING it.http://www.davincivirtual.com/shop/message.asp?m=termserv
Here's the rental posting from Davinci:http://www.davincimeetingrooms.com/utah/salt-lake-city-meeting-rooms/319
I say it like this to make sure you understand that Sigma Solutions does not OWN or PERMANENTLY RESIDE at this address. In fact, this is who does: http://www.intermountainlegalut.com/
It's a Defense Attorney's office.
The only real location that I have been able to find for Sigma Solutions LLC, "loan company", is from someone else who stated they traced them to a location in the UK but could not pin point from there. (this was from someone on the city forum)
2.) They cannot give you their TAX ID #.
Any legitimate business will have no problem giving this to you when you ask.
3.) Their PH # they give of 1-800-620-8813 is pointless.
I called them. This was out of curiosity as well as the desire to actually get some information directly from them as to whether they are legitimate or not.
I did speak w/someone who couldn't help. English was not her first or probably even second language. I asked for someone who could help with just being approved for a loan and needing to verify some information. She said OK and that she would transfer me. I was put into a queue that rang a few times and then went to a Vmail machine - I left a message and asked for a call back. I never got one.
Bottom line - this is a scam to get your information.
Complaint reports usually state that money was taken in amounts ranging from 20 - 40 dollars. Small amts. that they state are "fees", (but they cannot tell you what for), and that a lot of people probably just write off as something they forgot to record in their checkbook.
Reports also state that these people are very violent including threats to have you put in jail and even that harm will be done to you if you do not take care of this "debt" which of course, is a lie.
If you are getting calls from 1-800-620-8813 OR 1-800-620-0371 (another 3rd party affiliated that I found out many other people were getting calls from them as well claiming the same things as Sigma Solutions LLC) REPORT THEM, CHANGE YOUR NUMBER, AND WATCH YOUR ACCOUNT. I advise closing and re-opening a new bank acct all together. It is better to be safe than sorry.
Somewhere along the lines you gave your information to someone who was affiliated with Sigma. You either checked a box saying it was OK to give out your information or you failed to un-check a box. You never know what 3rd party companies are affiliated with who and what agreements they have. You also never know the extent of the damage that will be done. Never give your information out online to anyone. http://www.scammer-alert.com/payday-loans.html
http://www.dailydollarnewsletter.com/2011/02/09/warning-payday-loan-collections-scam/
http://www.directlendingsolutions.com/scams-using-western-union.htm
http://www.howtostopdebtcollectors.com/indian-payday-loan-scam/
In this time of economic hardship more and more people are searching out short term loans and payday loans to help them get by or build up their credit. These days everything is online and unfortunately you don't always know what you're getting into. RESEARCH everything. The focus of my post is, "Sigma Solutions LLC" - they are one of the worst companies to have your information.This is how they work.
You decide to look for a loan online. You find multiple companies ready and willing to take your info. You finally find one that is one you either recognize or feel comfortable with. This initial company that you give your information to is legitimate. (usually) This initial company however is not a bank. They are not a loan service. They are a go-between. And I would go so far as to say, they are the sheep's clothing covering the wolf. The next thing you know you are approved. They found someone who is willing to give you a loan. Who would that be? Sigma Solutions LLC, of course. If you decided to do your research half way thru the loan process and have stumbled upon this blog post at that time - stop. Do not go further because the next step is getting you to sign away your rights.
If you are past that point, keep reading. The next step begins with a contract. This is something you would expect from a legitimate company. It tells you how much you've been approved for and what the interest you will have to pay back will be. It's a little high but you expect that since, after all, it's being deposited that day... The bad thing about these companies is that they make you feel like it's completely honest and helpful - their agreements are somewhere in that 5 page range and most people just skim them. The things you are skimming over would be:
1.) Saying that you "agree that you will not bring, join, or participate in any class action as to any claim, dispute, or controversy you may have against us or our agents, services, directors, officers, and employees. You agree to the entry of injunctive relief to stop such a lawsuit or remove you as a participant in the suit. You agree to pay the costs we incur, including our court costs and attorneys fees, in seeking such relief." What you can do is arbitration which is a legal technique for the resolution of disputes outside the courts, where the parties to a dispute refer it to one or more persons and by their decision they agree to be bound. It's a settlement in which a third party reviews the case and imposes a decision that is legally binding for both sides - it's a form of alternative dispute resolution...Good luck with that.
2.) You authorize them to contact you regarding your "loan" at your place of employment residence at any time up to 9:00 p.m
Other parts include that they can give your info to their "affiliates" and that you are VERIFYING ALL YOUR INFORMATION and authorizing them access to your bank account. A legitimate company would want to talk to you to have you verify it all, they do not need to since you have just verified it all electronically along w/your electronic signature and have given them permission to do as they wish all based on the false premise that they will be depositing money into your account in one business day.
After you sign this, they will take you to a new page that states they will be calling you to verify your information. This is again to make you think they are legit.
I can tell you with certainty that no money will ever be placed into your account.
I think the reason they are able to continue this scam is because so many people are too embarrassed to say anything or they feel like there is nothing they can do. There are several forums and help discussions available for these types of scams - including city support forums and warnings to report them to the FCC - whether anything comes of that I am not sure but let me tell you a few of the things I came across while trying to track down this particular "company", Sigma Solutions LLC.
1.) Their address of:
2150 South 1300 East, suite 50
Salt Lake City, UT 84106
is a CONFERENCE CENTER from which you can rent conference and meeting rooms.http://www.cloudvirtualoffice.com/locations/DetailPage.php?center_id=2146
The important thing to know here is that you can rent this space for a "virtual meeting" - no one has to physically be there. I find this odd. Also this particular address can be rented as an "office-for-a-day" at any point in time.
You know how you always hear that anything can be found online? Well, it's pretty much true. Below is the link to the agreement FROM Davinci Meetings and Conference Rooms regarding THIS ADDRESS, it is TO anyone RENTING it.http://www.davincivirtual.com/shop/message.asp?m=termserv
Here's the rental posting from Davinci:http://www.davincimeetingrooms.com/utah/salt-lake-city-meeting-rooms/319
I say it like this to make sure you understand that Sigma Solutions does not OWN or PERMANENTLY RESIDE at this address. In fact, this is who does: http://www.intermountainlegalut.com/
It's a Defense Attorney's office.
The only real location that I have been able to find for Sigma Solutions LLC, "loan company", is from someone else who stated they traced them to a location in the UK but could not pin point from there. (this was from someone on the city forum)
2.) They cannot give you their TAX ID #.
Any legitimate business will have no problem giving this to you when you ask.
3.) Their PH # they give of 1-800-620-8813 is pointless.
I called them. This was out of curiosity as well as the desire to actually get some information directly from them as to whether they are legitimate or not.
I did speak w/someone who couldn't help. English was not her first or probably even second language. I asked for someone who could help with just being approved for a loan and needing to verify some information. She said OK and that she would transfer me. I was put into a queue that rang a few times and then went to a Vmail machine - I left a message and asked for a call back. I never got one.
Bottom line - this is a scam to get your information.
Complaint reports usually state that money was taken in amounts ranging from 20 - 40 dollars. Small amts. that they state are "fees", (but they cannot tell you what for), and that a lot of people probably just write off as something they forgot to record in their checkbook.
Reports also state that these people are very violent including threats to have you put in jail and even that harm will be done to you if you do not take care of this "debt" which of course, is a lie.
If you are getting calls from 1-800-620-8813 OR 1-800-620-0371 (another 3rd party affiliated that I found out many other people were getting calls from them as well claiming the same things as Sigma Solutions LLC) REPORT THEM, CHANGE YOUR NUMBER, AND WATCH YOUR ACCOUNT. I advise closing and re-opening a new bank acct all together. It is better to be safe than sorry.
Somewhere along the lines you gave your information to someone who was affiliated with Sigma. You either checked a box saying it was OK to give out your information or you failed to un-check a box. You never know what 3rd party companies are affiliated with who and what agreements they have. You also never know the extent of the damage that will be done. Never give your information out online to anyone. http://www.scammer-alert.com/payday-loans.html
http://www.dailydollarnewsletter.com/2011/02/09/warning-payday-loan-collections-scam/
http://www.directlendingsolutions.com/scams-using-western-union.htm
http://www.howtostopdebtcollectors.com/indian-payday-loan-scam/
Monday, May 02, 2011
The Announcement of the Death of Osama Bin Laden
May 2nd, 2011
Last night reports broke out and President Obama confirmed they were true when he announced to the nation that Osama Bin Laden had been killed. It's been a time of celebrating for Americans from the moment the news broke out. A team of Navy Seals are to thank for their bravery and skills in the attack as well as a HUGE THANK YOU to all our service men and women who have been fighting in this war against terror! Finally the man responsible for orchestrating the 9/11 attacks has received justice.
I am thankful for the closure that this brings to so many Americans and survivors of that day but esp. for the families of those that lost their lives!!
Rejoicing after a decade: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden
Closure. Finally, something that many Americans had given up on.
Here are a few of the thoughts I've had or heard today.
1.) Why would they "bury the body at sea"?
We all know that had it been reversed, they would be parading the body thru the streets for weeks. Personally, I think that is revolting however, we should at least be able to see videos of the body being carried out or brought at least to our soil to be burned or disposed of. Per radio reports this morning the reasoning comes from the Muslim tradition of burying their dead at sea. CBSNEW€S posted this today, "Pentagon officials said Monday that bin Laden's body was be handled in accordance with Muslim traditions, which include strict rules on burial taking place within 24 hours after death." (See that article here: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/02/501364/main20058795.shtml ) To this my reaction is w/out hesitation, WHY? Why would we worry about HIM and HIS religious traditions when we have THOUSANDS of people who have been waiting OVER A DECADE for this moment?
I agree with this question that this is the wrong thing to do and does give rise to suspicion over whether or not he truly is dead.
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtyAE0QU02ESV26fhu1CQ5ibvZx4;_ylu=X3oDMTN0dnVqNGhmBGEDMTEwNTAxIG5ld3MgYmluIGxhZGVuIHhvBGNjb2RlAwRjcG9zAzEEZwNpZC04Nzk5MARpbnRsA3VzBGl0YwMwBHBrZ3YDNjAEcG9zAzYEc2VjA3RkLXhvBHNsawNyZWwtdGl0bGUEdGVzdAMzNTEEd29lAzEyNzc2NzEx/SIG=122oma21u/EXP=1304424456/**http%3A//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden_burial
Per reports, they did take DNA from the body to dispel any rumors but really, that's not going to work. People want to SEE proof.
2.) Why haven't they released the photos?
Naturally you would think if there are photos, they would be shown. Also on the news radio broadcasts this morning, is the fact that no decision has been reached as to whether or not the photos will be released to the public. I am not one that thinks the public always needs to know everything, but this, needs to be shared.
3.) This does not mean that this is the end.
Obviously. Bin Laden has not even been leading al-Qaida for years and terrorism will continue to be a national threat. The United States has issued a Travel Warning to all American Citizens abroad but let's not be ignorant to the fact that terrorists are not just "abroad" they are in our borders and can attack any time that they choose. This goes for more than just America, al-Qaida groups can be found around the globe.You can not help but wonder what the retaliation to Bin Laden's death will be.
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AjBFh3cGqv1Ak3ZJUMOUTGCbvZx4;_ylu=X3oDMTNvaDA2dWViBGEDMTEwNTAxIG5ld3MgYmluIGxhZGVuIHhvBGNjb2RlAwRjcG9zAzEEZwNpZC04Nzk5MARpbnRsA3VzBGl0YwMwBHBrZ3YDOTkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA3RkLXhvBHNsawNtb3JlBHRlc3QDMzUxBHdvZQMxMjc3NjcwNA--/SIG=152c63t7h/EXP=1304447002/**http%3A//news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110502/ts_yblog_thelookout/could-bin-ladens-death-could-increase-risk-of-domestic-terrorism-attacks
According to NBC last night, within the next 60 days the first group of American soldiers is anticipated to be pulled out and brought home due to this.
4.) It's not really his body, they used "facial reconstruction" to make us think that the it was Bin Laden living there.
This came straight from a conspiracy theorist's mouth!! lol I don't even know what to say to that other than, that would be why we took DNA from the body to test and also I'd like to say, that would be insane.
5.) Why if he was in a house 8x's the size of all other houses in the city, with a huge thick brick wall and barbed wire across the top, did we just think to look for him there now?
Apparently the house was built in 2005, but Bin Laden did not move in until 2008. Enter U.S. surveillance...oh about.... 6 months ago. I agree, this is odd. I would also think that we would have our eyes on movement in Pakistan while looking for him however, you have to remember that Pakistan was not willing to help at all. With that hindrance also is the fact that we did not just go in and take over the city lol I'm not sure what people think goes on, but not that. Just to show how unwilling Pakistan and it's people were to help, I should mention that there was a 25 million dollar bounty on Osama Bin Laden's head that was being offered. I know if it were American's and there was a possibility that a wanted terrorist, a murderer of hundreds of men, women, and children was at large in our country AND there was a huge bounty on his head, DOG wouldn't even get the call before there would be hundreds of people searching the hills and mountains. At least, I would hope so. A reporter for FOX News stated that the Pakistan government was not informed of the U.S. plan to attack. There's a reason for that. Fox also reported that since 9/11 the U.S. has given about 2 billion dollars a year to Pakistan. That's slightly more than that 25 million dollar bounty... Our relationship with Pakistan has changed a lot in recent years. As much as I hate to take from Wikipedia..I'm going to. Simply because they put it simply and quickly:
"Prior to the September 11 attacks in 2001, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were key supporters of the Taliban in Afghanistan, as part of their "strategic depth" objective vis-a-vis India, Iran, Russia and to try to bring stability to Afghanistan after years of civil war following the Soviet withdrawal.
After 9/11, Pakistan, led by General Pervez Musharraf, reversed course under pressure from the United States and joined the "War on Terror" as a U.S. ally. Having failed to convince the Taliban to hand over bin Laden and other members of Al Qaeda, Pakistan provided the U.S. a number of military airports and bases for its attack on Afghanistan, along with other logistical support. Since 2001, Pakistan has arrested over five hundred Al-Qaeda members and handed them over to the United States; senior U.S. officers have been lavish in their praise of Pakistani efforts in public while expressing their concern that not enough was being done in private. However, General Musharraf was strongly supported by the Bush administration – a common theme throughout Pakistan's relations with the U.S. has been U.S. support of military dictators to the detriment of democracy in Pakistan.
In return for their support, Pakistan had sanctions lifted and has received about $10 billion in U.S. aid since 2001, primarily military. In June 2004, President George W. Bush designated Pakistan as a major non-NATO ally,[1] making it eligible, among other things, to purchase advanced American military technology.
Pakistan has lost thousands of lives since joining the U.S. war on terror in the form of both soldiers and civilians, and is currently going through a critical period. Suicide bombs are now commonplace in Pakistan, whereas they were unheard of prior to 9/11. The Taliban have been resurgent in recent years in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Hundreds of thousands of refugees have been created internally in Pakistan, as they have been forced to flee their homes as a result of fighting between Pakistani forces and the Taliban in the regions bordering Afghanistan and further in Swat. In addition, the economy is in an extremely fragile position.
A key campaign argument of U.S. President Barack Obama's was that the U.S. had made the mistake of "putting all our eggs in one basket" in the form of General Musharraf. Musharraf was eventually forced out of office under the threat of impeachment, after years of political protests by lawyers, civilians and other political parties in Pakistan. With President Obama coming into office, the U.S. is expected to triple non-military aid to Pakistan to $1.5 billion per year over 10 years, and to tie military aid to progress in the fight against militants. The purpose of the aid is to help strengthen the relatively new democratic government led by President Zardari and to help strengthen civil institutions and the general economy in Pakistan, and to put in place an aid program that is broader in scope than just supporting Pakistan's military."
Regardless of what people may say or think, the death of Bin Laden does not mean we will stop funding them. There are still more terrorists out there and al-queida members that they can help apprehend.
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/world-alert-u-kills-osama-bin-laden-210350782.html
A couple of interesting things about the attack that killed Bin Laden according to NBC? One cowardly terrorist member used a woman as a human shield during the gunfire and All hard drives on the computers in the house? They were taken out and smashed to pieces.
Today's THV, How the attack happened: http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/155734/288/How-the-attack-on-Osama-bin-Laden-happened
Really I was not surprised to hear where he was "hiding". You have to think of his mentality. He is such a proud, narcissist of a human being there is no way that he would be living in a hole or in a bunker in the ground. This is one of the most evil, self-entitled men of history - It's only natural that he would be living in a huge house near the "West Point of Pakistan" surrounded by his most loyal followers.
So what were your first thoughts when you heard the news? Did you watch it or were you sleeping and have to hear about it the next day??
Do you believe it? Or are you unsure?
I would love to hear everyone's reactions!
Last night reports broke out and President Obama confirmed they were true when he announced to the nation that Osama Bin Laden had been killed. It's been a time of celebrating for Americans from the moment the news broke out. A team of Navy Seals are to thank for their bravery and skills in the attack as well as a HUGE THANK YOU to all our service men and women who have been fighting in this war against terror! Finally the man responsible for orchestrating the 9/11 attacks has received justice.
I am thankful for the closure that this brings to so many Americans and survivors of that day but esp. for the families of those that lost their lives!!
Rejoicing after a decade: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden
Closure. Finally, something that many Americans had given up on.
Here are a few of the thoughts I've had or heard today.
1.) Why would they "bury the body at sea"?
We all know that had it been reversed, they would be parading the body thru the streets for weeks. Personally, I think that is revolting however, we should at least be able to see videos of the body being carried out or brought at least to our soil to be burned or disposed of. Per radio reports this morning the reasoning comes from the Muslim tradition of burying their dead at sea. CBSNEW€S posted this today, "Pentagon officials said Monday that bin Laden's body was be handled in accordance with Muslim traditions, which include strict rules on burial taking place within 24 hours after death." (See that article here: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/02/501364/main20058795.shtml ) To this my reaction is w/out hesitation, WHY? Why would we worry about HIM and HIS religious traditions when we have THOUSANDS of people who have been waiting OVER A DECADE for this moment?
I agree with this question that this is the wrong thing to do and does give rise to suspicion over whether or not he truly is dead.
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtyAE0QU02ESV26fhu1CQ5ibvZx4;_ylu=X3oDMTN0dnVqNGhmBGEDMTEwNTAxIG5ld3MgYmluIGxhZGVuIHhvBGNjb2RlAwRjcG9zAzEEZwNpZC04Nzk5MARpbnRsA3VzBGl0YwMwBHBrZ3YDNjAEcG9zAzYEc2VjA3RkLXhvBHNsawNyZWwtdGl0bGUEdGVzdAMzNTEEd29lAzEyNzc2NzEx/SIG=122oma21u/EXP=1304424456/**http%3A//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden_burial
Per reports, they did take DNA from the body to dispel any rumors but really, that's not going to work. People want to SEE proof.
2.) Why haven't they released the photos?
Naturally you would think if there are photos, they would be shown. Also on the news radio broadcasts this morning, is the fact that no decision has been reached as to whether or not the photos will be released to the public. I am not one that thinks the public always needs to know everything, but this, needs to be shared.
3.) This does not mean that this is the end.
Obviously. Bin Laden has not even been leading al-Qaida for years and terrorism will continue to be a national threat. The United States has issued a Travel Warning to all American Citizens abroad but let's not be ignorant to the fact that terrorists are not just "abroad" they are in our borders and can attack any time that they choose. This goes for more than just America, al-Qaida groups can be found around the globe.You can not help but wonder what the retaliation to Bin Laden's death will be.
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AjBFh3cGqv1Ak3ZJUMOUTGCbvZx4;_ylu=X3oDMTNvaDA2dWViBGEDMTEwNTAxIG5ld3MgYmluIGxhZGVuIHhvBGNjb2RlAwRjcG9zAzEEZwNpZC04Nzk5MARpbnRsA3VzBGl0YwMwBHBrZ3YDOTkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA3RkLXhvBHNsawNtb3JlBHRlc3QDMzUxBHdvZQMxMjc3NjcwNA--/SIG=152c63t7h/EXP=1304447002/**http%3A//news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110502/ts_yblog_thelookout/could-bin-ladens-death-could-increase-risk-of-domestic-terrorism-attacks
According to NBC last night, within the next 60 days the first group of American soldiers is anticipated to be pulled out and brought home due to this.
4.) It's not really his body, they used "facial reconstruction" to make us think that the it was Bin Laden living there.
This came straight from a conspiracy theorist's mouth!! lol I don't even know what to say to that other than, that would be why we took DNA from the body to test and also I'd like to say, that would be insane.
5.) Why if he was in a house 8x's the size of all other houses in the city, with a huge thick brick wall and barbed wire across the top, did we just think to look for him there now?
Apparently the house was built in 2005, but Bin Laden did not move in until 2008. Enter U.S. surveillance...oh about.... 6 months ago. I agree, this is odd. I would also think that we would have our eyes on movement in Pakistan while looking for him however, you have to remember that Pakistan was not willing to help at all. With that hindrance also is the fact that we did not just go in and take over the city lol I'm not sure what people think goes on, but not that. Just to show how unwilling Pakistan and it's people were to help, I should mention that there was a 25 million dollar bounty on Osama Bin Laden's head that was being offered. I know if it were American's and there was a possibility that a wanted terrorist, a murderer of hundreds of men, women, and children was at large in our country AND there was a huge bounty on his head, DOG wouldn't even get the call before there would be hundreds of people searching the hills and mountains. At least, I would hope so. A reporter for FOX News stated that the Pakistan government was not informed of the U.S. plan to attack. There's a reason for that. Fox also reported that since 9/11 the U.S. has given about 2 billion dollars a year to Pakistan. That's slightly more than that 25 million dollar bounty... Our relationship with Pakistan has changed a lot in recent years. As much as I hate to take from Wikipedia..I'm going to. Simply because they put it simply and quickly:
"Prior to the September 11 attacks in 2001, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were key supporters of the Taliban in Afghanistan, as part of their "strategic depth" objective vis-a-vis India, Iran, Russia and to try to bring stability to Afghanistan after years of civil war following the Soviet withdrawal.
After 9/11, Pakistan, led by General Pervez Musharraf, reversed course under pressure from the United States and joined the "War on Terror" as a U.S. ally. Having failed to convince the Taliban to hand over bin Laden and other members of Al Qaeda, Pakistan provided the U.S. a number of military airports and bases for its attack on Afghanistan, along with other logistical support. Since 2001, Pakistan has arrested over five hundred Al-Qaeda members and handed them over to the United States; senior U.S. officers have been lavish in their praise of Pakistani efforts in public while expressing their concern that not enough was being done in private. However, General Musharraf was strongly supported by the Bush administration – a common theme throughout Pakistan's relations with the U.S. has been U.S. support of military dictators to the detriment of democracy in Pakistan.
In return for their support, Pakistan had sanctions lifted and has received about $10 billion in U.S. aid since 2001, primarily military. In June 2004, President George W. Bush designated Pakistan as a major non-NATO ally,[1] making it eligible, among other things, to purchase advanced American military technology.
Pakistan has lost thousands of lives since joining the U.S. war on terror in the form of both soldiers and civilians, and is currently going through a critical period. Suicide bombs are now commonplace in Pakistan, whereas they were unheard of prior to 9/11. The Taliban have been resurgent in recent years in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Hundreds of thousands of refugees have been created internally in Pakistan, as they have been forced to flee their homes as a result of fighting between Pakistani forces and the Taliban in the regions bordering Afghanistan and further in Swat. In addition, the economy is in an extremely fragile position.
A key campaign argument of U.S. President Barack Obama's was that the U.S. had made the mistake of "putting all our eggs in one basket" in the form of General Musharraf. Musharraf was eventually forced out of office under the threat of impeachment, after years of political protests by lawyers, civilians and other political parties in Pakistan. With President Obama coming into office, the U.S. is expected to triple non-military aid to Pakistan to $1.5 billion per year over 10 years, and to tie military aid to progress in the fight against militants. The purpose of the aid is to help strengthen the relatively new democratic government led by President Zardari and to help strengthen civil institutions and the general economy in Pakistan, and to put in place an aid program that is broader in scope than just supporting Pakistan's military."
Regardless of what people may say or think, the death of Bin Laden does not mean we will stop funding them. There are still more terrorists out there and al-queida members that they can help apprehend.
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/world-alert-u-kills-osama-bin-laden-210350782.html
A couple of interesting things about the attack that killed Bin Laden according to NBC? One cowardly terrorist member used a woman as a human shield during the gunfire and All hard drives on the computers in the house? They were taken out and smashed to pieces.
Today's THV, How the attack happened: http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/155734/288/How-the-attack-on-Osama-bin-Laden-happened
Really I was not surprised to hear where he was "hiding". You have to think of his mentality. He is such a proud, narcissist of a human being there is no way that he would be living in a hole or in a bunker in the ground. This is one of the most evil, self-entitled men of history - It's only natural that he would be living in a huge house near the "West Point of Pakistan" surrounded by his most loyal followers.
So what were your first thoughts when you heard the news? Did you watch it or were you sleeping and have to hear about it the next day??
Do you believe it? Or are you unsure?
I would love to hear everyone's reactions!
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